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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: curious_george on August 17, 2011, 04:48 am

Title: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: curious_george on August 17, 2011, 04:48 am
Hey Guys,

I've seen the conversion charts, but after hearing some horror stories of Opana's strength, especially with alcohol and puking, I wanted to get a real life suggestion for my specific case.

I've been taking Oxycodone for a while - I'll usually rail 1 30mg roxies with a couple 15mg follow ups over the course of a couple hours no problem for a smooth ride (no crazy euphoria but certainly no sickness ever). I've managed to get my hands on some Opana 40mg ERs, and I was wondering what a proper amount would be to insufflate. I'd prefer not to puke, but hopefully enough for me to feel a decent euphoria.

I've also heard good things about plugging, but I'd prefer to stay away from that for a while. I might try Nomad Bloodbath's IV method at some point in the future, but I wanted to snort first to get my Opana doses right first.

Thanks guys, really appreciate it. Stay safe out there.
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 17, 2011, 04:52 am
Do not mix alcohol with oxymorphone.


5mg of oxymorphone will have you going for 5 hours hard.
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: curious_george on August 17, 2011, 04:55 am
I've heard of some people taking shots of liquor before hand when they take oxymorphone orally to increase the bioavailability, but both for safety and because I want to snort them, I definitely won't be doing that.

Do you have any suggestions of how the doses carry over when you're dealing with intranasal?
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 17, 2011, 05:04 am
If you're gonna snort oxymorphone start with 5mg.

Crush it up into two piles of powder.
2.5mg per line, 1 up each side of your nose.
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: curious_george on August 17, 2011, 05:08 am
Thanks a lot man. Really appreciate the informed help.
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: chronicpain on August 17, 2011, 05:04 pm
Don't forget to eat a high fat meal about 20 minutes before snorting. It will increase your effects by about 20 percent. sometimes more, sometimes less. For me, its right around 20 percent increase.... Its almost like taking alcohol without the dangers. It keeps your liver busy so it cant break down the oxymorphone. (thats the non technical version)
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 17, 2011, 07:29 pm
LOL Opana is so strong and i high such a low tolerance 5mg knocks me on my ass for 5 hours at the least without food or anything...but i do IV most of the time.
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: chronicpain on August 17, 2011, 07:38 pm
Well, when you do IV your bioavailability is 100 percent, so of course, there is no reason to eat a high fat meal. Its only relevant to those that im, snort or heaven forbid, eat.
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 17, 2011, 07:56 pm
Well, when you do IV your bioavailability is 100 percent, so of course, there is no reason to eat a high fat meal. Its only relevant to those that im, snort or heaven forbid, eat.

:P
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: brockeh on August 18, 2011, 11:34 am
bioavailability is 100% for iv and 40% for intranasal ive read, so we could scale nomads 5mg up to about 11, whats your tolerance like nomad?
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 18, 2011, 01:16 pm
bioavailability is 100% for iv and 40% for intranasal ive read, so we could scale nomads 5mg up to about 11, whats your tolerance like nomad?

very very moderate
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: btcfreedom on August 18, 2011, 02:49 pm
LOL Opana is so strong and i high such a low tolerance 5mg knocks me on my ass for 5 hours at the least without food or anything...but i do IV most of the time.

roxi makes me nod powerfully after 40-60mg....never tried Opana but really wanna give it a go.

intranasal only for me. smoking when beneficial and harmless.

nothing made me nod harder than aromatics shit first round though via the ubie plus a few lines....and i quote "nods were into the center

of the earth and back"

but then again the bags of stallion that IP has are on their way i hope....maybe that'll change the whole game.

1st timer on that shit.



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Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: weaver77 on August 19, 2011, 09:04 pm
I just want to say be very very careful. 

I just got a 40mg Opana ER yesterday to play around with.  I normally do 15-30 mg roxi (snorting or under the tongue) and feel great.  I have a descent tolerance I think by doing about 40mg hydro orally on a daily basis over the last two years, with the roxi on the side.  However, after snorting less than a quarter of the Opana, like maybe 8-9mg, I was not only completely sedated such that I could not, literally, keep my eyes open, but I was more nauseous than I think I have ever been in my entire life.  I threw up 4 times over the course of 8 hours and had a horrible trip.  I could not believe Opana is that much stronger than the roxi's, but it totally kicked my ass.  It has been about 18 hours since I first took it and I am still feeling sick.

I wonder if anybody else has had effects such as this?       
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 19, 2011, 09:22 pm
I just want to say be very very careful. 

I just got a 40mg Opana ER yesterday to play around with.  I normally do 15-30 mg roxi (snorting or under the tongue) and feel great.  I have a descent tolerance I think by doing about 40mg hydro orally on a daily basis over the last two years, with the roxi on the side.  However, after snorting less than a quarter of the Opana, like maybe 8-9mg, I was not only completely sedated such that I could not, literally, keep my eyes open, but I was more nauseous than I think I have ever been in my entire life.  I threw up 4 times over the course of 8 hours and had a horrible trip.  I could not believe Opana is that much stronger than the roxi's, but it totally kicked my ass.  It has been about 18 hours since I first took it and I am still feeling sick.

I wonder if anybody else has had effects such as this?       

Yes your conversion was not right, you did too much for your tolerance, hence the vomiting. The nausea is the first sign of a mild overdose. The repeated vomiting was your body reacting to trying to get the opiate out of your system but it was too later it had been absorbed into your bloodstream and there is no way of getting that out via vomiting.

I very much had the same reaction one time when I use to shoot heroin. I dosed up my first shot and didnt get the immediately effects i wanted so i cooked up a second shot...this was a mistake because for the next 4-5 hours i was vomiting/dry heaving every 20 minutes.

Too Much Too Fast.

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: chronicpain on August 19, 2011, 09:34 pm
Nomad is correct, you just did too much. A lot of first timers will underestimate the strength of opana and since they have to snort half an 80mg oxy they assume they have to snort half an opana...If you take too much of any narcotic you will either be puking your guts out or stop breathing.

Next time, cut your dosage by about 70 to 80  percent, then if that doesn't do it, slowly add more, wait 10 minutes, rinse and repeat. You can always add more but you cannot take any away...

oxymorphone must be handled with care...
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: weaver77 on August 19, 2011, 09:43 pm
Thank you Wise Ones.  I will be counting the dust particles carefully next time. 
Title: Re: Oxycodone => Opana Insufflation
Post by: brockeh on August 21, 2011, 03:47 am
id recommend starting out with a much lower dose then you think you need with a new opiate/opioid, not only because of the obvious safety issues but ive found easing in drastically reduces nasuea.
in my experience having very small to small doses afew times before a proper 'nod off' type dose can reduce sickness during or after.